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		<title>By: spectatrix</title>
		<link>http://spectatrix.com/2007/07/29/dont-correct-me-if-im-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>spectatrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sander,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s an interesting perspective. Maybe I&#039;ll eventually get to that point too, once my French improves.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sander,</p>

<p>That&#8217;s an interesting perspective. Maybe I&#8217;ll eventually get to that point too, once my French improves.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like your blog, it gives me a lot of things to think about.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Strangely enough, for me it&#039;s easier to speak in English than in my own language. Sure, when I was learning English in high-school, I was afraid to try to speak in front of the class or even to practice with my fellow students. But now that I&#039;m content with my level, I feel actually more confident when I&#039;m speaking in English with someone. I don&#039;t know why that is. It feels like there is a buffer between me and what I&#039;m saying. Maybe, it&#039;s easier because I can say most things only in one way, so I don&#039;t have to worry about choosing the right formulation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway, it could be something to look forward to: once you speak french reasonably well, communicating with stranger might be easier.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your blog, it gives me a lot of things to think about.</p>

<p>Strangely enough, for me it&#8217;s easier to speak in English than in my own language. Sure, when I was learning English in high-school, I was afraid to try to speak in front of the class or even to practice with my fellow students. But now that I&#8217;m content with my level, I feel actually more confident when I&#8217;m speaking in English with someone. I don&#8217;t know why that is. It feels like there is a buffer between me and what I&#8217;m saying. Maybe, it&#8217;s easier because I can say most things only in one way, so I don&#8217;t have to worry about choosing the right formulation.</p>

<p>Anyway, it could be something to look forward to: once you speak french reasonably well, communicating with stranger might be easier.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: spectatrix</title>
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		<dc:creator>spectatrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chris,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the encouragement. I do feel like it&#039;s getting better, but I still have moments of panic from time to time. I&#039;m still waiting for it all to &quot;click.&quot; I did have a dream last night that included a few French words--not a conversation mind you--so I feel like it&#039;s getting through in a small way.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>

<p>Thanks for the encouragement. I do feel like it&#8217;s getting better, but I still have moments of panic from time to time. I&#8217;m still waiting for it all to &#8220;click.&#8221; I did have a dream last night that included a few French words&#8211;not a conversation mind you&#8211;so I feel like it&#8217;s getting through in a small way.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Morgen, you have my full sympathies in your struggle with French.  We are experiencing the same thing here, and although we keep at it, speaking French when we can with people on the street and especially coworkers, and studying at home, I still find myself staring blankly at people who try to talk to me, and speaking English instead of French when I can.  Hang in there.  A friend of ours here in Yaounde who is a translator told me recently that all of a sudden you find yourself better at a language, that it just works that way.  So I guess you don&#039;t get better in small intervals on a regular basis.  I&#039;ve been thinking about that a lot, and trying to keep at it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgen, you have my full sympathies in your struggle with French.  We are experiencing the same thing here, and although we keep at it, speaking French when we can with people on the street and especially coworkers, and studying at home, I still find myself staring blankly at people who try to talk to me, and speaking English instead of French when I can.  Hang in there.  A friend of ours here in Yaounde who is a translator told me recently that all of a sudden you find yourself better at a language, that it just works that way.  So I guess you don&#8217;t get better in small intervals on a regular basis.  I&#8217;ve been thinking about that a lot, and trying to keep at it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Thalasshaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thalasshaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i&#039;ll second KT&#039;s advice about simply apologizing from the outset for your poor french and forging ahead.  i lived in paris for about 6 weeks as an immersion learning experience when i was in college.  i had formal classes, too, but that was my first exposure to the language.  immersion, in those terms, is very near drowning!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;still, i found that if i&#039;d just try things in french, if i went slowly or stumbled, the french would smile patiently at me and offer a correction if i got something obviously wrong.  it was my effort NOT to be an ugly american that saved me from being an ugly american.  sometimes, if they were impatient and had the option they&#039;d offer to switch to english for me.  :)  other times, i learned a heckuva lot of french in the trenches.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i never had a single bad experience with people treating me rudely or mocking my attempts.  they seemed to appreciate that i was willing to try and maybe that endeared me to them a little.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ll second KT&#8217;s advice about simply apologizing from the outset for your poor french and forging ahead.  i lived in paris for about 6 weeks as an immersion learning experience when i was in college.  i had formal classes, too, but that was my first exposure to the language.  immersion, in those terms, is very near drowning!</p>

<p>still, i found that if i&#8217;d just try things in french, if i went slowly or stumbled, the french would smile patiently at me and offer a correction if i got something obviously wrong.  it was my effort NOT to be an ugly american that saved me from being an ugly american.  sometimes, if they were impatient and had the option they&#8217;d offer to switch to english for me.  <img src='http://spectatrix.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   other times, i learned a heckuva lot of french in the trenches.</p>

<p>i never had a single bad experience with people treating me rudely or mocking my attempts.  they seemed to appreciate that i was willing to try and maybe that endeared me to them a little.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: spectatrix</title>
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		<dc:creator>spectatrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;William:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for sharing your experiences with language learning. I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll employ at least one or two of those techniques at some point. I also find it encouraging that the practice of fearlessness has become self-fulfilling for you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;KT:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve had a few experiences lately with the language coming to me when I&#039;ve least expected it. And strangely enough, it has been when I&#039;ve been on my own (usually my husband Joe was with me when these situations have cropped up in the past). I&#039;m forming a theory that when I know I can&#039;t rely on someone else to communicate, somehow it&#039;s much easier to take the risk of looking foolish. Maybe it&#039;s because the person I&#039;m speaking to is a stranger, and when I&#039;m with someone I know, I&#039;m more afraid of looking foolish in front of them :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have read Peter Mayle&#039;s books on Provence (I think there&#039;s three of them now), and we actually saw him in person at a reading in San Francisco this past year. Both Joe and I are great fans of his, and made a trip to Provence a few years ago mainly due to his influence, so it was wonderful to hear him read his work in person!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William:</p>

<p>Thanks for sharing your experiences with language learning. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll employ at least one or two of those techniques at some point. I also find it encouraging that the practice of fearlessness has become self-fulfilling for you.</p>

<p>KT:</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve had a few experiences lately with the language coming to me when I&#8217;ve least expected it. And strangely enough, it has been when I&#8217;ve been on my own (usually my husband Joe was with me when these situations have cropped up in the past). I&#8217;m forming a theory that when I know I can&#8217;t rely on someone else to communicate, somehow it&#8217;s much easier to take the risk of looking foolish. Maybe it&#8217;s because the person I&#8217;m speaking to is a stranger, and when I&#8217;m with someone I know, I&#8217;m more afraid of looking foolish in front of them <img src='http://spectatrix.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>I have read Peter Mayle&#8217;s books on Provence (I think there&#8217;s three of them now), and we actually saw him in person at a reading in San Francisco this past year. Both Joe and I are great fans of his, and made a trip to Provence a few years ago mainly due to his influence, so it was wonderful to hear him read his work in person!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: KT McCann</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT McCann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Morgen, I can relate so much to your predicament. I first took French in 7th grade, and took the first two years over and over as I progressed through different schools. My mom, on the other hand, grew up speaking French (in Ohio!) When I went to Paris to be with her when my dad died there while on vacation, I followed her along like a puppy dog, nodding and smiling like an idiot. Two times she was not available--once in the subway system and once...can&#039;t remember...anyway, the words spewed out of me in perfect enough French to get my needs met. 2 seconds later I couldn&#039;t have repeated the words or sentences! So miracles happen when need arises.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MY suggestion to cope with possible ridicule--and it IS possible in Paris; they can be unkind about our arrogance expecting THEM to speak OUR language while traveling/living in THEIR country--is to be prepared to apologize about your imperfect French and thank them for correcting you, as you want to learn--that will bring you kudos for not being the arrogant american they&#039;ve found all too often and make you friends along the way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope you&#039;ve read Peter Mayles&#039; 2 books on Provence! Jealously yours, KT&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgen, I can relate so much to your predicament. I first took French in 7th grade, and took the first two years over and over as I progressed through different schools. My mom, on the other hand, grew up speaking French (in Ohio!) When I went to Paris to be with her when my dad died there while on vacation, I followed her along like a puppy dog, nodding and smiling like an idiot. Two times she was not available&#8211;once in the subway system and once&#8230;can&#8217;t remember&#8230;anyway, the words spewed out of me in perfect enough French to get my needs met. 2 seconds later I couldn&#8217;t have repeated the words or sentences! So miracles happen when need arises.</p>

<p>MY suggestion to cope with possible ridicule&#8211;and it IS possible in Paris; they can be unkind about our arrogance expecting THEM to speak OUR language while traveling/living in THEIR country&#8211;is to be prepared to apologize about your imperfect French and thank them for correcting you, as you want to learn&#8211;that will bring you kudos for not being the arrogant american they&#8217;ve found all too often and make you friends along the way.</p>

<p>I hope you&#8217;ve read Peter Mayles&#8217; 2 books on Provence! Jealously yours, KT</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: spectatrix</title>
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		<dc:creator>spectatrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nancy:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your article has given me a lot of good food for thought, so thank you!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy:</p>

<p>Your article has given me a lot of good food for thought, so thank you!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nancy Fenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Fenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks for the nice mention!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the nice mention!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your thoughtful posts; they have a lot of resonance for me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regarding language-learning, three things have worked for me depending on the situation. One is that old friend of the shy, alcohol. Sober, I&#039;m tongue-tied in Spanish, as I hear my mistakes. After a couple of beers, I notice less and care less when I do. And I know my conversational partners care less as well, which helps.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second, I like a setting where the encounter is expected to go on for a while, but conversation isn&#039;t expected to be continuous. A sidewalk cafe with an engaging view can be great when there&#039;s a lot of people to watch, or a busy waterfront to distract. Sporting events can be good, too. Dinner parties can also be good if I&#039;m seated so that my neighbors can converse both with me and with others.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For me, another help has been anti-anxiety medication. Xanax has been helpful for specific situations, and Buspirone as a more general way to keep my fear in line with the circumstances.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The most interesting thing for me about this is that my discomfort in certain social situations was partly a learned thing. Now even without meds or alcohol I&#039;m much more comfortable with things like mangling somebody else&#039;s language. I think that&#039;s because a recent history of not being scared has undone my built-up fear of potentially awkward social interactions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I hope that helps. Keep on posting!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your thoughtful posts; they have a lot of resonance for me.</p>

<p>Regarding language-learning, three things have worked for me depending on the situation. One is that old friend of the shy, alcohol. Sober, I&#8217;m tongue-tied in Spanish, as I hear my mistakes. After a couple of beers, I notice less and care less when I do. And I know my conversational partners care less as well, which helps.</p>

<p>Second, I like a setting where the encounter is expected to go on for a while, but conversation isn&#8217;t expected to be continuous. A sidewalk cafe with an engaging view can be great when there&#8217;s a lot of people to watch, or a busy waterfront to distract. Sporting events can be good, too. Dinner parties can also be good if I&#8217;m seated so that my neighbors can converse both with me and with others.</p>

<p>For me, another help has been anti-anxiety medication. Xanax has been helpful for specific situations, and Buspirone as a more general way to keep my fear in line with the circumstances.</p>

<p>The most interesting thing for me about this is that my discomfort in certain social situations was partly a learned thing. Now even without meds or alcohol I&#8217;m much more comfortable with things like mangling somebody else&#8217;s language. I think that&#8217;s because a recent history of not being scared has undone my built-up fear of potentially awkward social interactions.</p>

<p>I hope that helps. Keep on posting!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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