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	<title>Comments on: Of Bells and Bubbles</title>
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		<title>By: Chocolatesa</title>
		<link>http://spectatrix.com/2007/04/09/of-bells-and-bubbles/comment-page-1/#comment-750</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolatesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That story about the guy talking on the phone makes me want to scream too!!!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That story about the guy talking on the phone makes me want to scream too!!!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: spectatrix</title>
		<link>http://spectatrix.com/2007/04/09/of-bells-and-bubbles/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>spectatrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cloud:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You make a very good point, but I might argue that these restaurants are not exactly private establishments. They do invite the public in, and don&#039;t have overt restrictions on who can or cannot be there (unlike a private club, for example). And if they did have such restrictions, I don&#039;t think it would go down very well. Just as there has been greater attention paid to making restaurants smoke-free and family-friendly (in some cases), perhaps if restaurateurs were informed about how noise affects some of their customers, they might make changes. I think it is in their best interests to keep potential patrons happy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sari:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I agree that loud music can be a huge part of the problem. I think it&#039;s a great point that restaurants are sometimes setting the expectations through their choices about what is an acceptable background noise level.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cloud:</p>

<p>You make a very good point, but I might argue that these restaurants are not exactly private establishments. They do invite the public in, and don&#8217;t have overt restrictions on who can or cannot be there (unlike a private club, for example). And if they did have such restrictions, I don&#8217;t think it would go down very well. Just as there has been greater attention paid to making restaurants smoke-free and family-friendly (in some cases), perhaps if restaurateurs were informed about how noise affects some of their customers, they might make changes. I think it is in their best interests to keep potential patrons happy.</p>

<p>Sari:</p>

<p>I agree that loud music can be a huge part of the problem. I think it&#8217;s a great point that restaurants are sometimes setting the expectations through their choices about what is an acceptable background noise level.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sari</title>
		<link>http://spectatrix.com/2007/04/09/of-bells-and-bubbles/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Sari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 01:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree that people are becoming more noisy in general.  Though, I must say I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s more about people being in a &quot;bubble&quot; and not realizing their actions affect others, but rather not thinking societal norms and rules of etiquitte apply to them.  When did &quot;it&#039;s my right&quot; become the excuse for a good portion of inconsiderate behavior?  I had no idea bad manners was an inalienable right.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although, I feel that sometimes excessive noise can be the fault of the restaurant.  When the music is up too loud or the music is exceptionally fast (like techno or trance) patrons are more likely to raise their voices over the din to talk with their dinner companions.  On the other hand, restaurants with the music at a low volume (or no music at all) tend to have fewer people talking loudly.  Sometimes subtle cues on appropriate noise level (quieter servers, low-volume music, etc) can keep noise at bay.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that people are becoming more noisy in general.  Though, I must say I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s more about people being in a &#8220;bubble&#8221; and not realizing their actions affect others, but rather not thinking societal norms and rules of etiquitte apply to them.  When did &#8220;it&#8217;s my right&#8221; become the excuse for a good portion of inconsiderate behavior?  I had no idea bad manners was an inalienable right.</p>

<p>Although, I feel that sometimes excessive noise can be the fault of the restaurant.  When the music is up too loud or the music is exceptionally fast (like techno or trance) patrons are more likely to raise their voices over the din to talk with their dinner companions.  On the other hand, restaurants with the music at a low volume (or no music at all) tend to have fewer people talking loudly.  Sometimes subtle cues on appropriate noise level (quieter servers, low-volume music, etc) can keep noise at bay.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
		<link>http://spectatrix.com/2007/04/09/of-bells-and-bubbles/comment-page-1/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with you Spectatrix.  Although I can be oblivious at times to the noise I&#039;m contributing to a particular venue, I have no qualms about chastising others for being the same.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, I&#039;d love it if reviews made a mention of the temperature in each restaurant.  I hate eating when I&#039;m shivering.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Spectatrix.  Although I can be oblivious at times to the noise I&#8217;m contributing to a particular venue, I have no qualms about chastising others for being the same.</p>

<p>Also, I&#8217;d love it if reviews made a mention of the temperature in each restaurant.  I hate eating when I&#8217;m shivering.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Cloud</title>
		<link>http://spectatrix.com/2007/04/09/of-bells-and-bubbles/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 14:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dining at ANY private establishment is a privilege.  While I do not enjoy excessive noise and hate having to raise my voice, I cannot simply place blame on those who have a loud establishment.  Nobody has a right to enjoy the great food of a great restaurant at whatever noise level they want.  If a restaurant serves excellent seafood, attested to by rave reviews, should people that don&#039;t eat seafood have a right to enjoy the kitchen&#039;s culinary work with respect to a different kind of dish?  No.  What any restaurant serves and how they serve it is their choice.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the other hand, I applaud the fact that you&#039;re here vouching for our preferences.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dining at ANY private establishment is a privilege.  While I do not enjoy excessive noise and hate having to raise my voice, I cannot simply place blame on those who have a loud establishment.  Nobody has a right to enjoy the great food of a great restaurant at whatever noise level they want.  If a restaurant serves excellent seafood, attested to by rave reviews, should people that don&#8217;t eat seafood have a right to enjoy the kitchen&#8217;s culinary work with respect to a different kind of dish?  No.  What any restaurant serves and how they serve it is their choice.</p>

<p>On the other hand, I applaud the fact that you&#8217;re here vouching for our preferences.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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